UFO at the bottom of the Sea?

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:22 am

How much you want to bet it turns out to be an air cleaner cover from a Harly? Very Happy

http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/ufo-found-ocean-floor-1895/

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:11 am

You know there is one place I believe in the Andes but in south America,above 12,000 ft altitude where nothing will grow,there is this series of big blocks. They look like the letter "H",negative corners,and others that all stack up and interlock like big Legos.

Now the deal is are made from granite or dolomite(next hardest to diamond). So just how in the fuck did they cut these or move them for that matter? They interviewed a guy who cuts granite as a job and he said no idea how they could have done such precision.

There are so many of these strange things world wide that could not be duplicated today.

There are two big stacks of blocks like 30 some feet tall and a massive block that becomes the cap stone to make the doorway. This cap stone is estimated to be like 130 tons and with our largest cranes would have a hard time lifting it.

The age of this stuff is plenty like 3000+ yrs ago,they only had like copper tools,so someone explain this?

I just saw an interesting show. They were using head lice to show the age of people. Turns out clothing lice will kill you carry typhus and other diseases they think was part of the defeat of Napoleon in Russia. These are related. Then the discussion went to crabs which are not related to lice at all. Care to guess where they came from? Apes/monkeys. Sounds to me like shore leave on this planet with the spacemen screwing the monkeys. Maybe why Neandrathals suddenly changed to Homo Sapiens,but naw just regular Darwin.

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:11 am

60ft across? My first thought was the big coil rings they'd hang of the bottom of wellington bombers for clearing magnetic mines in the 40's

Browne's Hill Doleman in Ireland has the largest capstone of any neolithic (c2500BC) burial chamber in Europe - that's estimated at about 130 tons!

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:24 am

Like Stonehenge. Hey lets all get together and drag these heavy assed blocks 200 miles,then hoist them up on top of these other ones.

Something has been lost in history. Say anti gravity some way to move this stuff easy. You can just see these guys sitting around in a bar and saying hey lets move these big heavy things so the monkeys eventually will wonder how it was done.

There is this spot in Florida with big carved coral stuff. A little #130 man did all the work himself. It originally was quite a distance away from where it is now and he supposedly moved it all by himself over one night. Something about he learned the secret of the pyramids and never told anyone taking it to his grave. Moved all this stuff with a simple block anf tackel and wooden tripod.

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:29 am

As Bucko, said:-) Laughing

. It'll be an aircleaner off a Harley, the last remaining one!!!, I might add.
The Hells Angels and the Commanchero's as well as the Bandito's, had a towing competition!!!!!, hence, I say, Hence!!!!, the result of the subject matter??, of this post;-), well1111, that's my belief an I'm sticking by it, Smile

Des

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:21 pm

sonicrete wrote:

Now the deal is are made from granite or dolomite(next hardest to diamond). So just how in the fuck did they cut these or move them for that matter? They interviewed a guy who cuts granite as a job and he said no idea how they could have done such precision.

Cutting rocks is not hard, people have been doing it for thousands of years. After all, one of the first lessons the proto humans learned was to "bang the rocks together".

Dolomite is calcium magnesium carbonate - it is very soft, about 3.5 to 4 on the moh hardness scale (an absolute hardness of 10-20). Diamond is 10 (an absolute hardness of 1600). So compared to diamond dolomite is soft, if you are a heavy duty masticator you could almost chew it.

Granite is mainly quartz (Moh 7, absolute hardness 100) and feldspar (Moh 6, absolute hardness 72) still much softer than diamond.

It does not surprise me that a granite cutter (with an unknown understanding of ancient quarrying techniques) can't work out how the ancients cut the stone and built a structure.

A key to understanding ancient construction techniques is that a whole culture may have worked on something like stonehenge for decades or longer. Other cultures had access to large numbers of slaves who could be worked to death. There are plenty of good academic works which explore the construction techniques available to the builders based on archaeological evidence. Are these structures are amazing? Yes. Do they point to supernatural or extraterrestial involvement? No.

As for lifting and moving heavy things a 130 tonne stone is not particularly large by todays standards. Current heavy lift cranes are capable of single lifts of well over 300t.

Looking for supernatural or extraterrestial explanations for big old buildings is like believing that thunder and lightning are caused by the gods fighting or that a really fast motorcycle is fast because it has a nimbus 2000 strapped to it..

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:59 pm

EZ to build a 3 story building out of 300 ton blocks without ever having to lift one.

1....build the first floor
2....bury it
3....drag all your building material up on top and build the second floor on top of it
4....bury the second floor
5....see step #3 above
6....remove all the dirt

All you need is time and lots of slaves / workers

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:29 pm

The most amazing find in the last couple of decades. Gobekli Tepe in Turkey is 11000+ BC, 6000 years older than Stonehenge and much more sophisticated. They believe ancient man buried the huge site for no known reason other than to protect it. Made from 16-ton stones. National Geographic says "Göbekli Tepe was is like finding that someone had built a 747 in a basement with an X-Acto knife."

The deeper they go, the more sophisticated the finds.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/gobekli-tepe.html

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/06/gobekli-tepe/mann-text

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LOL! That's kind of funny! The world's oldest temple, built 11,600 years ago.... Hmmmmm, what the fuck were they worshipping?? Hahahaa.

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:24 pm

dwarf717 wrote:

LOL! That's kind of funny! The world's oldest temple, built 11,600 years ago.... Hmmmmm, what the fuck were they worshipping?? Hahahaa.

That which they did not understand.

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:24 pm

Whatever they worshipped its gone now, we should learn from history.

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:25 pm

+1 on the human spirit, to paraphraise a rather more recent tribal leader "We choose to <<<do>> in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too."

Some of the stones at Stonehenge were probably there through glacial deposition and put in place quite easily, those that came after found they had to drag them from 100's of miles away....but they did because that's what they thought those who came before them had done. We have a great "can do mentality"...just at the moment we are putting away our Space Shuttles and our Concordes 'cos we can't Crying or Very sad

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:52 pm

thx113 wrote:

dwarf717 wrote:

LOL! That's kind of funny! The world's oldest temple, built 11,600 years ago.... Hmmmmm, what the fuck were they worshipping?? Hahahaa.

That which they did not understand.

Same as today.

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:22 pm

dwarf717 wrote:

LOL! That's kind of funny! The world's oldest temple, built 11,600 years ago.... Hmmmmm, what the fuck were they worshipping?? Hahahaa.

Harleys! They were designed around the same time. Very Happy

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:02 am

Ah shoot... it's Megatron, the Decepticons leader. I saw them drop him in the ocean at the end of the first Transformers movie I was watching Friday night with my 4 year old grandson. Case closed. It was the goverment all the time!!!!

Sorry....I just had to post that. It just came to me after watching that movie.

I quietly go back to my corner and think about what I have done! Twisted Evil

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:19 pm

sonicrete wrote:

There is this spot in Florida with big carved coral stuff. A little #130 man did all the work himself. It originally was quite a distance away from where it is now and he supposedly moved it all by himself over one night. Something about he learned the secret of the pyramids and never told anyone taking it to his grave. Moved all this stuff with a simple block anf tackel and wooden tripod.

That's the www.coralcastle.com

Billy Idol actually had a song about it in the 80's called "Sweet Sixteen". Allegedly the guy built it as a love offering to his girl, who ran away or got abducted by aliens or some such thing. Ok, I made up the aliens.

Link

Edward Leedskalnin was born in Riga, Latvia on August 10th, 1887. When Ed was 26 years old, he became engaged to marry his one true love Agnes Scuffs. Agnes was ten years younger than Ed and he affectionately referred to her as his “Sweet Sixteen.” Agnes canceled the wedding just one day before the ceremony.

Heartbroken and deeply saddened by this tragic loss, Ed set out on a lifelong quest to create a monument to his lost love that has become one of the world’s most remarkable accomplishments, originally called Rock Gate Park but now known as the Coral Castle. With no outside assistance or large machinery Ed single-handedly built the Coral Castle, carving and sculpting over 1,100 tons of coral rock, as a testimony to his lost love, Agnes

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:35 pm

CB1100F wrote:

sonicrete wrote:

There is this spot in Florida with big carved coral stuff. A little #130 man did all the work himself. It originally was quite a distance away from where it is now and he supposedly moved it all by himself over one night. Something about he learned the secret of the pyramids and never told anyone taking it to his grave. Moved all this stuff with a simple block anf tackel and wooden tripod.

That's the www.coralcastle.com

Billy Idol actually had a song about it in the 80's called "Sweet Sixteen". Allegedly the guy built it as a love offering to his girl, who ran away or got abducted by aliens or some such thing. Ok, I made up the aliens.
Edward Leedskalnin was born in Riga, Latvia on August 10th, 1887. When Ed was 26 years old, he became engaged to marry his one true love Agnes Scuffs. Agnes was ten years younger than Ed and he affectionately referred to her as his “Sweet Sixteen.” Agnes canceled the wedding just one day before the ceremony.

Heartbroken and deeply saddened by this tragic loss, Ed set out on a lifelong quest to create a monument to his lost love that has become one of the world’s most remarkable accomplishments, originally called Rock Gate Park but now known as the Coral Castle. With no outside assistance or large machinery Ed single-handedly built the Coral Castle, carving and sculpting over 1,100 tons of coral rock, as a testimony to his lost love, Agnes

It would have been a lot easier and cheaper to get a therapist and move on.

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:55 pm

This was an interesting method of moving and standing stones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCvx5gSnfW4&feature=related

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:07 pm

Ahhh...but then you'd never build a castle or have Billy Broad writing songs about you....

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:09 pm

thx113 wrote:

This was an interesting method of moving and standing stones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCvx5gSnfW4&feature=related

Hmmmmm.....the unexplained or human ingenuity. I'm going with option 2.

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:10 pm

Just a really clever chap working out how to move big things without using a wand.

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:50 pm

I find it kind of interesting that it seams that it is a group of learned people that look at some of these discoveries and say that these people were so primative and lacked the necessary tools to do such a thing, they must have had some sort of help.

Then some "ordinary" guy bulids something with out the aid of "modern" technology.

Henry Ford wrote:

Think you can, think you can't; either way, you'll be right.
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