Noob says hi, and tells a short story on getting an 1100f.

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:44 am

I've been lurking for a while now and until I actually found an F I thought I'd keep from posting too much nonsense. I'm impressed with the amount of information so far and how helpful everyone seems to be(kind of reminds me of another car forum->Audiworld). Anyway....the story.....

Another cb1100f.net member had a nice 7/9 bike for sale that I was going to have a friend across the country look at. Things fell through, but I picked up an exhaust and I offered to let him keep all the deposit as I felt bad. Conscience: +1. Looked around quite a bit for an 1100 for a good price and found a potential one to fly to and ride home. Turns out it wasn't functional and the deal got complicated(and >$$) in the process of getting it functional. Gave up on it and just moved on, Conscience: 0.

I found a bike down in San Diego that turned out to be non-functional as well. Single owner though and had an incompetent friend wrenching on it. How bad could they have messed it up? So borrowed a truck (buddy drops it off in the middle of our first rain storm in 8 months with bald tires, lol). Drive 550 miles to pick it up and it turned out to have some extra parts thrown in without increasing the price!! Hydroplane my way back to Sacramento and lift it off the back of the truck with a cherry picker. Sidenote: wow, heavy bikes...my TZ and GSXRs were loadable even without a ramp!! On to the pics:

In very good condition with 35k miles. Barely turning over though...hmmmm

Do those things *ever* stay tight??

But onto the extras:

I had a set of 34mm Mikuni RS carbs that I guess I can use. Melchiro's post about using GSXR spaced carbs was super helpful. Anyone know what the going rate on carbs in "ok" shape, 1100f wheels, front fairing, tail section, and fender might be? I know that's a lot to ask, sorry!

Plans are to make it a bit more "cafe" and put it on the track at Thunderhill, Sears Point, and Buttonwillow here in California.

Sorry for the long post, hopefully I'll be posting more useful information/project stuff before long.

Troy

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:24 am

good snag
Welcome to the site

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:44 am

Another track bike thread to follow. Outstanding!
Welcome to this great site, Troy.
How about a pic of the TZ.

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:40 pm

Nice grab, congradulations!

Audi huh? Another Unbelievably Dumb Idea.....................Ha ha sorry couldn't resist. I helped a friend out with the suspension on his A4. What a PITA. Rolling Eyes

Welcome to the site.

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:14 pm

Welcome to F'eavan Troy.

Congrats! Going to keep it Black???

Dave

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:22 pm

Right On Funkweasel , Way to go!! I'm just as excited as Smurdoch to watch your progress..Infineon & Thunderhill, I'm so jealous! Did you get a title with this bike?

Don't expect these bikes to act like your GSXR or TZ, get your welder out and brace up the frame. Upgrade the suspension as well. Those RS Mikunis should work really good on this motor..If you have any more questions, let us know.

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:52 pm

smurdoch wrote:

Another track bike thread to follow. Outstanding!
Welcome to this great site, Troy.
How about a pic of the TZ.

I'll dig some out and scan them soon(ish). That bike was so much better than me it was embarrassing!

sport wrote:

Audi huh? Another Unbelievably Dumb Idea.....................Ha ha sorry couldn't resist. I helped a friend out with the suspension on his A4. What a PITA. Rolling Eyes

HAH!! Agreed, but it's worse than that for me->I work on S4s, and they're way more tightly packed and backasswards. I was even dumb enough to start making parts for them. Embarassed

http://www.sdr-research.com

AlaskaGriz wrote:

Congrats! Going to keep it Black???

Most likely, but probably will not keep the 1100f fairing/tail/sides. I'm surprised to find that I actually sorta like them though, so if I can figure a way to lower the fairing for clipons.....hmmm.

melchiro wrote:

Right On Funkweasel , Way to go!! I'm just as excited as Smurdoch to watch your progress..Infineon & Thunderhill, I'm so jealous! Did you get a title with this bike?

Don't expect these bikes to act like your GSXR or TZ, get your welder out and brace up the frame. Upgrade the suspension as well. Those RS Mikunis should work really good on this motor..If you have any more questions, let us know.

Yep, both are sweet tracks. Infineon is less scary now than 10yrs ago, so I'm looking forward to relearning stuff. I've been tracking cars for such a long time that I'll definitely take it slow and steady for a bit.

I got a title and the guy had even put a non-operational status on it so no back registration fees! The bike will see dual duty on street and track. Which leads me to the plan and I'd love all your inputs:

I'm planning on putting spoked wheels from a gl on it and running more modern rim sizes. I figure an 18x5 in the back with a 17x3.5 up front. I've never noticed any weird tracking on Supermoto bikes, but will the spokes be a problem at the track?

I will brace the frame for sure and rigid mount the motor. On forks....well I'm unsure. I can make these Trac forks work I guess, but perhaps I'm limited on easy brake upgrades? I saw your post on the gl+cbx setup allowing you to run f3 296mm brakes. Think that's enough for track duty on twin piston calipers? If I swap forks to something else, I think I might as well go with some 900rr forks and get the 310mm brake/rotors and adapt the spoke wheels to them no?

Anyway, thanks guys!! I'm still learning a lot so sorry for all the questions.

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:31 am

NICE!!
I allways love black.
Welcome to here.

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:21 am

Funkweasel wrote:

Most likely, but probably will not keep the 1100f fairing/tail/sides. I'm surprised to find that I actually sorta like them though, so if I can figure a way to lower the fairing for clipons.....hmmm.

I'm planning on putting spoked wheels from a gl on it and running more modern rim sizes. I figure an 18x5 in the back with a 17x3.5 up front. I've never noticed any weird tracking on Supermoto bikes, but will the spokes be a problem at the track?

I will brace the frame for sure and rigid mount the motor. On forks....well I'm unsure. I can make these Trac forks work I guess, but perhaps I'm limited on easy brake upgrades? I saw your post on the gl+cbx setup allowing you to run f3 296mm brakes. Think that's enough for track duty on twin piston calipers? If I swap forks to something else, I think I might as well go with some 900rr forks and get the 310mm brake/rotors and adapt the spoke wheels to them no?

Anyway, thanks guys!! I'm still learning a lot so sorry for all the questions.

With imaginative thinking & fabrication skills, it's all possible....Aftermarket spoked wheels should work good on this bike.. 5-18 for rear & 3.5-17 are a good choice, although a 5.5" rear will give you more selection of the 180 size brands...

The stock Trac forks, I don't like..The crossover air tubes will not allow to raise the forks up the triple clamp..How much do you want to spend will make your decisions..Upside GSXR forks for big bucks or go with 900F forks, progressive springs, modified damper rod, in the stock triple, ....Braking, a set of EBC or SBS pads with SS lines, 296mm CBR1000 Hurricane rotors with CBX caliper mount will take care of that.

It's a fun fantastic new world for you to explore!!

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:02 pm

melchiro wrote:

With imaginative thinking & fabrication skills, it's all possible....Aftermarket spoked wheels should work good on this bike.. 5-18 for rear & 3.5-17 are a good choice, although a 5.5" rear will give you more selection of the 180 size brands...

The stock Trac forks, I don't like..The crossover air tubes will not allow to raise the forks up the triple clamp..How much do you want to spend will make your decisions..Upside GSXR forks for big bucks or go with 900F forks, progressive springs, modified damper rod, in the stock triple, ....Braking, a set of EBC or SBS pads with SS lines, 296mm CBR1000 Hurricane rotors with CBX caliper mount will take care of that.

It's a fun fantastic new world for you to explore!!

Good info! So the 180s will fit ok in the 1100f swingarm? It was unclear from the archives on that.

Forks: good question. The idea is to keep it a bit down on costs and high on sweat equity. There is, however, a 600rr complete front end on craigslist for $400 right now. I read that they are 4" or so too short? I saw your post about the gl1100 forks, are they pretty much the same as the 900 or are they stiffer(thicker stanchions and sliders?)?

Now to get the starter motor replaced and the motor working..... Laughing

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:28 am

I believe a 180 tire will barely squeeze in there..My 170/60-18 has about 1/4" space from a non O-ring 530 chain to the lip of the tire. O-ring chains are fatter. Had to make a rear brake stay arm. Bolt up to the outside of the mount at the front part.

Goldwing forks are same size stanchion, 39mm, the sliders are indeed fatter. The inexpensive upgrade would be 900F forks, (below pic), mod the stock springs by cutting 3.5" off the progressive wound end and replace with a PVC pipe. Make sure that the length of the pipe when installed has 25mm of pre-load when you screw in the caps. Also, the small holes at the top of the damper tube are welded shut to increase rebound.

On my street 750, I modded the stock forks as above and slid them up about 1.75" & am running an 110/80-18 rim/tire. Running 15# psi air as well. Top of triple clamp to center of axle measures 29" on the side stand. .

This works well for me.
http://www.studio819.smugmug.com/gallery/3570952_S5G9c#203123639_Yjguo

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:46 am

Your track bike project is *AWESOME*. So sweet. Found some wire wheel dual disc hubs today, will be starting on the wheels soon I hope.

I suppose I'll just do a 5.5" rim and see. Maybe try a cbx offset front sprocket.

I'll likely look for some forks and maybe cbx adapters(some for $50 on ebay). I'd like to go a bit bigger on the rotors so I may just fab adapters.

Soooo much fun upcoming.