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Nunzio
Black CB750F


Joined: Mar 27, 2007
Posts: 944
Location: Hampton, GA
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Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:54 am |
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If your interested in the build go here: http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=44800
I know this is a CBF site, but most of you know my projects and how they come out. So here's a small update. Oh by the way she has some CB750F take off parts from my Super Sport
Well I have had some time to get intimate with this bike and try and make her run and look a little better. Hear is a run down on what I've found and fixed so far.
1. I wanted some lower bars so I went with some super bike bars. I had some shorter cables off my 79 Cb750F SS so I used them to clean up the excess. I had to shorten the return cable free play by about an inch and a half. I cut it and re-soldered an end on it and it worked great. I did run into some electrical anomalies once I got everything back together. Apparently the PO was not well versed at electrical and had some wires crossed which caused the headlight to go dim. So instead of looking for the crossed wired he jumped the Tail Fuse with the Headlight fuse. It was a quick fix and everything worked including the turn buzzer.
2 Once I had everything back together it wouldn't start, it kept flooding. It even ran out the exhaust. Well I knew right away it was a stuck needle or float was too high. So off with the carbs. Once I got them open they were surprisingly clean and I knew someone had been in there. Why did I know this? Because there were two float hinge arm that were repaired by someone. I even discovered they used a nail for a hinge pin. Some people shouldn't be allowed to work on bikes. Any way I managed to track down the open needle valve causing the problem, which was actually an incorrectly adjusted float. I found several nails as hinges in there. I managed to make some new hinges out of.078" piano wire, which is the same size as the stock hinges. I also line bored the repaired hinge posts to make sure there was no misalignment. I got that all back together and she fired right up. I did manage to set the timing and balance the carbs per Randakk's recommendations. It runs awesome now.
3. I had some leaky forks as well that needed to be addressed, so I ordered up a the seals from Honda. Once I got the forks apart, just as I expected someone was in there before and jacked them up as well. I has some forks from a later model GL1100 that I was going to use on my CB750 that looked like they would work. So I cleaned up all the innards of my GL forks and was going to use the later models because they were just a little taller and I had a fork brace that would work with them. All of the insides of the older GL forks were the same. I repainted the triple clamps and forks black. While I had the triples off I installed an "All Balls" tapered roller bearing kit while I was in there too. I also cleaned and polished the fork tubes and everything else and reassembled them. One other upgrade I was going to do, was to use the front master and brakes off my CB as they had braided lines and were like new. I ran into a problem that I bet no one here knows about? The 75 and 76 discs and calipers are offset on the fork legs just a little to the left than later model GL's. How did I discover this you wonder? When I went to put on my caliper hangers from the CB they did not line up with the discs. I even tried the stock 76 GL's and the same was true. I compared both lower legs and the 76's were machined offset to compensate for the RH speedo drive. I wouldn't have believed it. Go look at your disc's relative to the fork legs inner side and you can see it. No problem I just brought the fork legs to work and machined the inner lugs to compensate for the offset. Worked like a charm. So now I have the CB brakes on the GL.
4. I finally got the seat cover installed that the PO gave me with the bike and gave her a well deserved bath and shine.
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Luckysox
CB1100F


Joined: May 13, 2005
Posts: 3217
Location: NE OHIO
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Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:02 am |
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Nunzio
Black CB750F


Joined: Mar 27, 2007
Posts: 944
Location: Hampton, GA
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Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:06 am |
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Here's some of the issues that encountered in the process.
Carb jerry rigging from the Previous owner.
[img]http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x246/1dog2dog/GL%20Issues/IMG_0136.jpg/img]
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Bucko
CB1100F


Joined: Dec 15, 2003
Posts: 2842
Location: Vancouver BC
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Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:28 am |
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Nunzio:
Looks awesome man! Nice work. Is that paint original or did you re-do it? |
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Nunzio
Black CB750F


Joined: Mar 27, 2007
Posts: 944
Location: Hampton, GA
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Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:18 am |
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It's original,but it's not as nice as I would like it. It's going to get completely stripped down to the frame and redone. |
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redstedman
Black CB900F


Joined: Aug 20, 2006
Posts: 1962
Location: manchester Mi
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Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:26 am |
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Beautiful job |
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ghost750f
Hawk


Joined: May 02, 2011
Posts: 421
Location: Toronto
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Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:26 pm |
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As your cbf, very impressive. |
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tomk1960
Red CB1100F


Joined: Nov 13, 2009
Posts: 5009
Location: Worcester, MA
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Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:39 pm |
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Looking good, Nunzio. Make sure to post pics and updates over on the NGW site too.
I've been accumulating GL parts, a titled frame, and powder coating as I go. The plan is to build a '78 in the "backwards" mode - in other words, have all the parts finished before I even start.
Keep up the great work. These bikes are just as addictive as the F's! |
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Magpie
Twinstar


Joined: Jan 10, 2006
Posts: 141
Location: Victoria, B.C., Canada
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Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:43 pm |
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THAT is a very nice bike! Cliff. |
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70rsss
Black CB750F


Joined: Jul 16, 2008
Posts: 856
Location: Houston
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Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:13 pm |
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That's a nice old girl....Well done! |
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barryadam
Twinstar


Joined: Aug 16, 2010
Posts: 233
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
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Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:28 pm |
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| Nunzio wrote: |
| I know this is a CBF site, but most of you know my projects and how they come out. So here's a small update. |
Always look forward to your project reports. Very inspirational.
Nice work on the bike. Looks fantastic. |
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Nunzio
Black CB750F


Joined: Mar 27, 2007
Posts: 944
Location: Hampton, GA
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Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:39 pm |
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| tomk1960 wrote: |
| Looking good, Nunzio. Make sure to post pics and updates over on the NGW site |
I have been, they are a different bunch over there, not so easily excited or impressed. That is not my goal, just thought I'd get more reaction on my build.
It's going to look bad ass when I get done with it. |
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kcdaniels
Hawk


Joined: Apr 22, 2010
Posts: 420
Location: Lake Placid Fl
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Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:46 pm |
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Looking Great !
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stoutblock
Friend of the Board


Joined: Jun 22, 2003
Posts: 4638
Location: Seattle
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Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:27 am |
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Nice bike! Wish it were mine  |
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Nunzio
Black CB750F


Joined: Mar 27, 2007
Posts: 944
Location: Hampton, GA
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Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:51 am |
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Nice bike! Wish it were mine  |
Yea, It may have been if the wife didn't come around and see the value. She really likes going on rides with me on this. |
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TWEEKER
Hawk


Joined: Nov 23, 2009
Posts: 325
Location: Pittsburgh,PA
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:05 am |
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Nunzio
Black CB750F


Joined: Mar 27, 2007
Posts: 944
Location: Hampton, GA
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:57 am |
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Nunzio
Black CB750F


Joined: Mar 27, 2007
Posts: 944
Location: Hampton, GA
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:56 am |
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kdxkid
Twinstar


Joined: Sep 04, 2012
Posts: 69
Location: Maryland
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:24 am |
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Love how the float pin was replaced w/ a nail by the previous owner. Classy |
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barryadam
Twinstar


Joined: Aug 16, 2010
Posts: 233
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:04 pm |
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Nice work.
The gloss black on the backs of the gauge housings looks fantastic.
Why did you specifically choose the SEM rattle can Gloss Black over all of the other paints / methods?
With your equipment and skills, you have lots of professional ways to do a gloss black finish.
I need to repaint a CBX non-metallic headlight housing in gloss black and I'll use your SEM prime & gloss black rattle can process.
For the gloss black, does the SEM can & nozzle work best with many light coats, or thicker, fewer coats?
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txscbf1100
Black CB750F


Joined: Jun 21, 2006
Posts: 794
Location: Yoakum, Tx.
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Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:24 am |
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Very nice indeed. Thats a good find. Don't care for yeller too much but I'm sure you'll get that taken care of in time.
Keep us posted.
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Bucko
CB1100F


Joined: Dec 15, 2003
Posts: 2842
Location: Vancouver BC
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Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:09 am |
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Hi Nunzio:
Nice work.
I read the build threads on the GW forms. Great stuff!
Are you still having the idling problem? FWIW I have something very similar on my 84 ascot. Ascots have a well documented problem with coils where the bike will run fine until you stop then it won't start again for a half hour. the problem coils will bench test fine and have no obvious reason why they're a problem but in the end new coils fix the problem. The prevailing theory is that once the coils heat up there's some kind of a short or open circuit that doesn't revel itself when the coils are tested at a cooler temp.
In my case, the bike runs fine at all speeds until it gets warm then it runs fine at all speeds except it won't idle and will stall when I pull up to a stop. Problem is worse when it's hot out. I swap in another set of coils and sure enough the problem goes away (I have yet to permanently fix the problem as new OEM coils are expensive).
You may find those 750F coils are a bit goofy - I don't think they're all that great even when new. |
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Nunzio
Black CB750F


Joined: Mar 27, 2007
Posts: 944
Location: Hampton, GA
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Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:23 am |
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I have the idle problem sorted out. I do need a new battery for the GL and that's most likely the culprit, it doesn't hold a charge. Even on a charger.
The coils are from my 750 and they are like new. Never had a problem with them. |
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sbparks
Hawk


Joined: Sep 21, 2010
Posts: 313
Location: Binghamton, New York
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Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:31 pm |
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Nunzio,
I really like the bike... Nice work. I looked at one of the NGW posts and I think you were describing the House of Kolors paint you are using for the bike. Are you (did you) paint it red? Can you point me to a post where you describe the painting process. I am interested in how you mixed other paints with the kandy color to achieve a certain effect.
Thanks.
Scott |
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Nunzio
Black CB750F


Joined: Mar 27, 2007
Posts: 944
Location: Hampton, GA
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Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:46 am |
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Why did you specifically choose the SEM rattle can Gloss Black over all of the other paints / methods?
I've been using SEM products for years, they just have that factory finish. Not too perfect. You want to put down a good coat, let it flash off and lay it down like you want it to look. This stuff dries pretty fast. My750 has a lot of the SEM finishes on it and people thing it was still original fresh.
Best thing is to test on a piece of cardboard or something first. |
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Nunzio
Black CB750F


Joined: Mar 27, 2007
Posts: 944
Location: Hampton, GA
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Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:49 am |
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Nunzio,
I am interested in how you mixed other paints with the kandy color to achieve a certain effect.
Thanks.
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If you keep a watch on the GL thread I'll be posting the paintwork and how I do it. It's going to be a CBX themed paint job. Candy Glory Red. It should start happening this week with the prep work. |
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sbparks
Hawk


Joined: Sep 21, 2010
Posts: 313
Location: Binghamton, New York
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Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:14 pm |
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Nunzio,
Thanks. Will do. I saw the posts on the House of Kolors paints that caught my attention. I just wanted to know more.
Thanks |
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Nunzio
Black CB750F


Joined: Mar 27, 2007
Posts: 944
Location: Hampton, GA
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Mon May 13, 2013 12:36 am |
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smurdoch
CB1100F


Joined: Jan 22, 2004
Posts: 3195
Location: St. Catharines, Ontario
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Mon May 13, 2013 11:35 am |
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Jim, just wondering why you decided to paint instead of coat the wheels.
I know you are a master painter but doesn't the durability factor come into play.
Reading the whole thread, the Wing site seems like a good bunch of guys. |
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Nunzio
Black CB750F


Joined: Mar 27, 2007
Posts: 944
Location: Hampton, GA
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Tue May 14, 2013 5:19 am |
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Jim, just wondering why you decided to paint instead of coat the wheels.
I know you are a master painter but doesn't the durability factor come into play.
Reading the whole thread, the Wing site seems like a good bunch of guys. |
Powder coat is okay, but it's difficult to touch up and change colors. I've always used Imron on all my wheels, last forever and rarely chips, never dulls. |
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