Need a pic of stock front signal mounts

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:45 am

I am trying to figure out how to put these stupid things on. I have found people who have them but they tell me I have to dismantle the forks to get them off. I have seen the fische and it doesn't look like what people are describing. A simple pic should do the trick.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:32 am

I assume your speaking to the year and model of bike you've note in your signature? The 79 750 F (? it is an F bike right?...you don't state F in your signature line), similar to most, if not all the 750 F's, do not require that the front end come completely apart to remove the turn signal stays. See the fiche shot below: (maybe the same one you mention?)

Item #10 and #19 are the turn signal mounting stays. There is the small locator screw Item #25 and then the hole to the rear of the stay. The large hole in the stay shares time and space with the lower triple clamp pinch bolt which secures the fork tube/s. Remove the locator screw, undo the lower triple clamp bolt and remove it (BUT DO NOT CHANGE, ALTER, MOVE, OR OTHERWISE MOLEST THE FRONT FORK TUBE ASSEMBLY AFTER HAVING REMOVED THE LOWER TRIPLE CLAMP BOLT PLEASE!!!!!) and the signal stay should come off the fork tube. You do not wish to possibly twist the fork tube assembly out of alignment while the lower triple clamp is not secure to the fork tube via the pinch bolt. The 750's have a single pinch bolt, the 900/1100's have two bolts per side in the lower clamp.

There is a diff between the 750 system and the 900/1100 signal stay attachment method for the front turn signals. The 750's bolt up as described/pictured above. My 82 750F of 37mm tube size is the same. The 900's and 1100's both use an "over the fork tube" system which includes a rubber grommet/sleeve of fork tube diameter (39mm approx) and a metal signal stay that then fits over this rubber grommet/sleeve. These symbiotic pieces then slide over the fork tubes as one might slide a donut over the end of his .....his .....his ......thumb,..yeah his thumb. This system of course requires that the top triple clamp be removed,..or that the fork tube be removed or at least lowered in the clamps to allow the "dounut" assemble to slide over the tube between both the upper and lower clamps.
The 900/1100 style is shown below as parts #14, 15 and 16. there is no other means to install or remove these 900/1100 signal stays unless one is willing to cut the stay in half. You can also see the fork on the inside of these stays, which locate the stay to the headlight bracket assemble and thus stop the stays from twisting to and fro (forward and back) in the wind. Also note,..the 1100 I speak of above is the Canadian spec bike. the U.S. spec machine uses yet another signal stay mount system, due to the 1/4 sport fairing install. The Canadian spec signal stay uses the rubber grommet, but it also has a split design to the stay which allows removal with out the tear down on the fork tubes and such.

Note: I've never had my signal stays off the bike since new, but the above is how it should work.

Does this help?

Tony "should I go or should I "stay" now.." Bagley

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:32 am

As far as i know, on the earlier model 750f's(possibly all 750 f's) there is a screw on the front side of the bottom triple clamp that holds the signal mount in place. there may also be another screw or notch that a tab goes into on the back side of the bottom triple clamp. please don't take this info as the absolute truth but i just had my brother's 750 front end all apart and can remember having the same troubles you are having. His bike had a full fairing which we removed and had to replace with the stock parts. It took a bit of looking over to figure it all out, but i'm sure they go on without removing the forks...positive actually. Good luck and post your results for other to learn from. Chad

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:49 am

Having read your post again I also have the following to offer up. The fork tube diameters are not the same for all the bikes for all the years theywere made. Early 750's from 79 and 80 had 35m fork tubes. 81 and 82 750's had 37mm fork tubes. 900's and 1100's in North America had 39mm tubes. If you might be mixing and matching signal stays from other years and motor sizes you may be in for grief as they will not "fit" the early 35mm tube front end you may be running. Same might also go for the lower triple to which they bolt up to. If the tube diameter is different then the lower triple clamp will be "that much" different, and so the parts might not work.

Tony

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:57 am

Thanks? I think I got all that Confused

They go on the lower clamp. So I need to find an early bike to find the type of mount I am looking for. And if someone has changed the forks it my not work. Gothcha. I think I found and alternate solution to the problem. The front signals on the bike now have a threaded end and go through the side of the headlight housing. If I purchased a pair or these(see pic below) I could just mount them the same way.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:13 am

Yes,..with a bit of "bike crafting" almost anything can be made to work in that fashion. Note: Front turn signals double as running lights, ie: they glow at low level while driving,..then get brighter for turn indication service. The front signals are a "three wire system". The rear signals do not glow unless your indicating a turn action you desire. The rears are a "two wire" system. If you go aftermarket besure to purchase the correct "wire" system. Also,..most/many aftermarket turn signals are not DOT approved units. If there are legal watch dogs in your area of ops, (Cops?) they may not groove to your mods,..more so during vehicle safety inspections and such.

Fork i.d.,..measure the tube diameter (the chome shinny part). Knowing this number will help you find stock parts if you desire to go that way. If your 79's lower fork sliders (the part that holds the front axel) has raised ribs on its front side and back side , that run from top to the bottom of the slider, most likely these are the 35mm stock front end tubes. The stock wheels may also be the "non-reversed Comstars". They do not have the sharp stamped steel edges facing out on the five spokes. Later model factory Comstars have the reversed spokes with shape edges facing out.

Tony