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fasterspider
Red CB1100F


Joined: Jan 24, 2004
Posts: 15809
Location: Studio City, Los Angeles, Ca. 91604
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:23 am |
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My battery box is rubber mounted just like everyone elses and I keep it strapped to the battery box door.
Yesterday the module was hot hot when it failed and I sent the crank trtigger too.
My Dyna's are hooked up perfectly according to the books and not just me but I also had my boss and my partner at the shop check my work.
I always have them check my work and I will continue to do so because I hate mistakes and I have made way too many but I aint making the same mistakes over and over again except using aftermarket stuff on my so called hot rod bikes.
This is a fucked up situation and maybe I will get to the bottom of it and maybe I won't.
For now I just want an ignition system that works even if it is bone stock. |
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INTIMIDA2OR
CB1100F


Joined: Mar 15, 2005
Posts: 2114
Location: OrangeCounty California
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:26 am |
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SPARK!!!
There's nothing quite like it , and in this case even a teeny tiny stock spark is a much welcomed creature comfort  |
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bohdan
Hawk


Joined: May 04, 2004
Posts: 368
Location: Dunedin, New Zealand
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:50 am |
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The dyna units are potted so vibration is unlikely to be a problem.
Potted means an epoxy sort of resin that is poured over the entire internal contents and circuit components and sets hard - thats why the units are so heavy for the relatively small size. Thats also why they are not repairable, as noted in an earlier post.
I am fortunate enough to have 2 dyna 2000s, one is running my ignition, one is a spare cable-tied underneath the seat by the rear brake light as a working replacement. Until I'm convinced that all is good I'm not riding without the spare unit at hand.  |
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INTIMIDA2OR
CB1100F


Joined: Mar 15, 2005
Posts: 2114
Location: OrangeCounty California
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:01 am |
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The dyna units are potted so vibration is unlikely to be a problem.
Potted means an epoxy sort of resin that is poured over the entire internal contents and circuit components and sets hard - thats why the units are so heavy for the relatively small size. Thats also why they are not repairable, as noted in an earlier post.
I am fortunate enough to have 2 dyna 2000s, one is running my ignition, one is a spare cable-tied underneath the seat by the rear brake light as a working replacement. Until I'm convinced that all is good I'm not riding without the spare unit at hand.  |
I like that idea .... i think i'll invest in a spare and mount it on the bike somewhere even though mine has been pretty much trouble free ,but after reading about all these failures i feel like i'm about to be Jinxed over here  |
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cb1187
Silver CB750F


Joined: Jun 29, 2003
Posts: 686
Location: S.W. IND.
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:40 pm |
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I have 2 Dyna's and have not had any problems for the past 14 months. Both are mounted over the tailight, like Bluesmans. 6,000+ miles on one and 2,000+ miles on the other. |
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fasterspider
Red CB1100F


Joined: Jan 24, 2004
Posts: 15809
Location: Studio City, Los Angeles, Ca. 91604
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:20 pm |
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After finding and installing 4 different advance units on the end of the crank, I finally found one that was not broken. Now my bike is running well on the stock CB1100/900/750F ignition parts.
Fuck, I hate broken expensive parts. |
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genesound
Red CB1100F


Joined: Feb 20, 2006
Posts: 11918
Location: Studio City, California
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Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:13 am |
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Glad you're up and running again Ray. I never did find those damn ignitors. Now it's me that's down, not my bike, it's my back, I can hardly walk. It'll clear up soon. |
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BluesMan
CB1100F


Joined: Jun 26, 2003
Posts: 2794
Location: Cincinnati, Oh.
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Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:04 am |
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| Glad you're up and running again Ray. I never did find those damn ignitors. Now it's me that's down, not my bike, it's my back, I can hardly walk. It'll clear up soon. |
I sympathize.........my back does that to me on occassion.  |
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sonicrete
Red CB1100F


Joined: Aug 19, 2003
Posts: 15472
Location: Lancaster,Ohio
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Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:49 am |
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You guys should drive a 1000 miles to have a Dyna unit fail and not be able to race.
The old MC1 unit was only an amplifier and would work with any 12 volt sender,even points. The Dyna main problem is it is designed with lower voltage components,at least as far as as I understand
I used Dyna to gain power over stock and it did but also failed. Got tired of Dyna excuses and put on an MSD and never failed another. You can power the old MC1 with anything and the stock senders work fine.
The new MSD takes a unit that looks like a Dyna "S" but according to instuctions will not fire coils directly,ie the current capabilty is not high enough.
The only thing I can say for sure is the power of these bikes is directly related to the quality/power of the ignition system. This was true 20 yrs ago and still true today. The old stock ignitors and old MC1 might be barbaric but does work. |
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GB
Hawk


Joined: Aug 03, 2004
Posts: 404
Location: Nescopeck PA
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Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:15 pm |
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I tested my rev limiter today on the replacement unit. It does work. The other day when I wasn't sure if it was working was because as I said I shift at 9000 and thought I had set the limiter at 9000. I did go over and thought the limiter should have kicked in. Well it was set at 9500. Today I dropped it down to 8500 and tested it a couple of times and each time it worked.
Ray, you mentioned that your's was hot hot when it failed. There have been a couple of occasions where there was an unusual amount of heat right under the seat or between my thighs. (Holy crap, I just typed tights instead of thighs. Thinking tight thighs against tank. OK, let's move on.) The next time I notice it I'll have to check the module. |
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GB
Hawk


Joined: Aug 03, 2004
Posts: 404
Location: Nescopeck PA
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:36 pm |
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Ray, have you heard anything back from Dyna yet? |
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fasterspider
Red CB1100F


Joined: Jan 24, 2004
Posts: 15809
Location: Studio City, Los Angeles, Ca. 91604
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:32 pm |
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| Ray, have you heard anything back from Dyna yet? |
No not yet Gary but as soon as I do I will post the results.
I have a bone stock ignition in my blue bike and need a module for the red bike to run unless I put the stock ignition back on but that is a HiPer motor in there and I think it needs a HiPer ignition. |
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millinaway
Twinstar


Joined: Sep 26, 2003
Posts: 40
Location: Brenham, Texas
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:31 pm |
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| No not yet Gary but as soon as I do I will post the results. |
Ray, have you heard back from Dyna yet? I sent my system to them 2 weeks ago with a note asking to please let me know what they find wrong with it. I called them this afternoon and they tell me a new unit has been sent. When I asked what was wrong with my old one, they don't know, the 2000 has been extremely reliable. I will give kudos to Dyna, when I receive mine, for not jerking me around about replacing it but with no explanation for the failure coupled with the number of failures I am seeing from this board I think my new system from Dyna will be for sale when it gets here..... Bummer. |
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fasterspider
Red CB1100F


Joined: Jan 24, 2004
Posts: 15809
Location: Studio City, Los Angeles, Ca. 91604
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:21 pm |
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I finally got my Dyna modules {2 of them} and 1 set of P/U coils back from Dyna today and went to the garage to fire up my red bike and the damn battery was dead.
I am going to charge the battery at the shop tomorrow and also buy myself 5 more gallons of race gas. She is back on the road as of tomorrow. It is too hot today to go outside. |
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BlueThunder
Red CB1100F


Joined: Jun 12, 2006
Posts: 9256
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:30 pm |
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Gee,
What I get from this thread is that the Dyna's junk. It makes no difference how good they are, the bottom line is if it fails as often as you guys are stating, then they are junk and completely useless. I will would rather go to points rather than have such unreliable stuff on my bike.
I hear many good responses regarding MSD... how about Accel or are they out of business too? |
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INTIMIDA2OR
CB1100F


Joined: Mar 15, 2005
Posts: 2114
Location: OrangeCounty California
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:52 pm |
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I finally got my Dyna modules {2 of them} and 1 set of P/U coils back from Dyna today and went to the garage to fire up my red bike and the damn battery was dead.
I am going to charge the battery at the shop tomorrow and also buy myself 5 more gallons of race gas. She is back on the road as of tomorrow. It is too hot today to go outside. |
Awesome man
My spare dyna 2000 module just came from a dude on eBay so i'll be packing it with me to the Hoot
From this moment on you should have no more ignition troubles
[Fingers Crossed]  |
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fasterspider
Red CB1100F


Joined: Jan 24, 2004
Posts: 15809
Location: Studio City, Los Angeles, Ca. 91604
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:06 pm |
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Are you really gonna ride to the Hoot? You should get the award for the furthest ride, that is for sure. |
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INTIMIDA2OR
CB1100F


Joined: Mar 15, 2005
Posts: 2114
Location: OrangeCounty California
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Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:35 am |
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| Are you really gonna ride to the Hoot? You should get the award for the furthest ride, that is for sure. |
My award would be actually getting safely there to ride the Dragon have total fun and come back home unscathed
But so far it looks like i'm sitting on go just gotta get a few more$$$$$ together and i'm set  |
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Fastball
Friend of the Board


Joined: Aug 23, 2004
Posts: 1575
Location: Spring Grove, PA
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Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:41 am |
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Seems to me the award should be given to you if you get there with out either of your Dynas taking a shit on you!!
Truthfully, I wish you the best and of course a safe journey!
I'm still reluctant to take mine further than 25 miles from home and always make sure the cell phone has a full charge!!
Just the sort of confidence I have in Dyna anymore. Come to think of it, and I sorta hate to say this, but a number of things I have purchased lately, that were made in the good ol' USA, have failed me miseriablily!! |
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fasterspider
Red CB1100F


Joined: Jan 24, 2004
Posts: 15809
Location: Studio City, Los Angeles, Ca. 91604
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Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:19 pm |
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I will let you take my extra Dyna module with you too if you want Lee? I would like to have faith in the equipment but I don't and I would feel guilty if you got stuck out in the middle of the 120 degree desert which you will be riding thru.  |
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h22auto
Hawk


Joined: Aug 29, 2005
Posts: 461
Location: lake city, florida
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Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:08 pm |
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... we could have an award for the most money spent on dynas for a single trip
... or most dynas fried on a single leg of a trip
... or most miles on one dyna before all the spark runs out
...last one with a working dyna wins  |
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Fastball
Friend of the Board


Joined: Aug 23, 2004
Posts: 1575
Location: Spring Grove, PA
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Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:05 pm |
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Brutal!!!
But true, none the less!!! |
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'81 CB900F w/1125cc OMT motor
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fasterspider
Red CB1100F


Joined: Jan 24, 2004
Posts: 15809
Location: Studio City, Los Angeles, Ca. 91604
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Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:25 pm |
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I sent them two modules and one pair of crank triggers and they sent me back one new module and my old triggers and module saying they tested fine, we will see.
Today I am going to the shop with the red bike and change the starter motor for one thing and I will see about raising the idle a bit too.
Lee, you aint had a problem with your Dyna module and you won't either. Have a great time and tell them all I said hello when you see them.
Oh yeah, I got that 5 gallons of 111 octane rocket fuel yesterday and that stuff smells like power. |
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GB
Hawk


Joined: Aug 03, 2004
Posts: 404
Location: Nescopeck PA
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:15 am |
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I found a MSD MC-1 ignition and installed it on my bike. I put 600mi on the bike this weekend, probably 400mi above 4500rpm's. The MSD ran great. I will be listing my Dyna 2000 complete in the 'For Sale' section later this week once I've taken some pics. |
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INTIMIDA2OR
CB1100F


Joined: Mar 15, 2005
Posts: 2114
Location: OrangeCounty California
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:45 am |
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| I found a MSD MC-1 ignition and installed it on my bike. I put 600mi on the bike this weekend, probably 400mi above 4500rpm's. The MSD ran great. I will be listing my Dyna 2000 complete in the 'For Sale' section later this week once I've taken some pics. |
Post pics of how you mounted that big box up !
I thought about using an MC-1 a long time ago when i 1st got my bike in '97...or '98 not quite sure but close to those years.
But the limited space on these F's turned me off even though i loved them Msd's on our Z1's. |
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spideray
Silver CB750F


Joined: Apr 13, 2004
Posts: 628
Location: Studio City, Los Angeles, Ca. 91604
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:17 pm |
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The 3rd time is a charm and the last time I put a Dyna product on my bike.
The goddamned Dyna failed again for the 3rd time and I am totally pissed off. |
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TigreST
Red CB1100F


Joined: Jul 16, 2003
Posts: 4283
Location: Sarnia, Ontario, Canada
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:49 pm |
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The 3rd time is a charm and the last time I put a Dyna product on my bike.
The goddamned Dyna failed again for the 3rd time and I am totally pissed off. |
Ray,
Be pissed,..that's fine. But demand satisfaction. Send the unit back and find out what the F%&k is going on with these things. Like it or not you are more then less the F bike front man for the Dyna 2000 delema. Matter of fact,..I'd keep send the things back C.O.D. until the fix is solid. Better yet, ride down there and let them install one on your bike, per the freakin' book,..and see what happens.
Tony" sitting with $1500.00+ worth of junk thank you very freakin much" Bagley |
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spideray
Silver CB750F


Joined: Apr 13, 2004
Posts: 628
Location: Studio City, Los Angeles, Ca. 91604
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Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:31 am |
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| spideray wrote: |
The 3rd time is a charm and the last time I put a Dyna product on my bike.
The goddamned Dyna failed again for the 3rd time and I am totally pissed off. |
Ray,
Be pissed,..that's fine. But demand satisfaction. Send the unit back and find out what the F%&k is going on with these things. Like it or not you are more then less the F bike front man for the Dyna 2000 delema. Matter of fact,..I'd keep send the things back C.O.D. until the fix is solid. Better yet, ride down there and let them install one on your bike, per the freakin' book,..and see what happens.
Tony" sitting with $1500.00+ worth of junk thank you very freakin much" Bagley |
I wrote to them and will keep you informed as to their response. I also offered to bring my bike there for them to do the troubleshooting on my bike. |
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INTIMIDA2OR
CB1100F


Joined: Mar 15, 2005
Posts: 2114
Location: OrangeCounty California
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Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:42 am |
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| TigreST wrote: |
| spideray wrote: |
The 3rd time is a charm and the last time I put a Dyna product on my bike.
The goddamned Dyna failed again for the 3rd time and I am totally pissed off. |
Ray,
Be pissed,..that's fine. But demand satisfaction. Send the unit back and find out what the F%&k is going on with these things. Like it or not you are more then less the F bike front man for the Dyna 2000 delema. Matter of fact,..I'd keep send the things back C.O.D. until the fix is solid. Better yet, ride down there and let them install one on your bike, per the freakin' book,..and see what happens.
Tony" sitting with $1500.00+ worth of junk thank you very freakin much" Bagley |
I wrote to them and will keep you informed as to their response. I also offered to bring my bike there for them to do the troubleshooting on my bike. |
Gee i guess i have to enjoy my Dyna System for you guys then  |
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genesound
Red CB1100F


Joined: Feb 20, 2006
Posts: 11918
Location: Studio City, California
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Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:30 am |
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It is a sad state of affairs alright, but I think you're doing the right thing Ray. If you can prove to them what is going on, they ought to owe you a solid, and everybody else will benefit from a more reliable product too. I realize I'm preaching to the choir, but I'm singing along too. You need any help getting back and forth or whatever, I'm here, just down the street
Hey... I'll call you about your schedule...  |
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