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WhiteCloud
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:11 am Reply with quote Back to top

OK, I put Stabil into the gas, now do I leave gas in the carbs or do I run the bike until the carbs are run dry? What do you guys recommend?
 
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Pointdiver
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:43 am Reply with quote Back to top

I find it easier and more effective to drain the bowls, there are valve screws at the bottom of each. Cool You might be just as well off leaving the treated gas in there but I've always drain them for the 5 months they sit.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:56 am Reply with quote Back to top

Dang! I forgot about the drains, that would be easier.
 
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solidrocktech
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:45 am Reply with quote Back to top

Top up the tank, pour in the required amount of stabilizer, let the bike idle for a few minutes, turn the petcock off, drain the carbs and you're good to go.
Don't forget to remove the battery and keep it indoors on a tender over the winter.
Always good to change the oil and filter, change the spark plugs and put a bit of oil into each cylinder.
 
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Blainethemono
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ya know.... for all the years Ive owned bikes, I have never winterized my carbs.. Shocked

1st ride of the year, I throw some Sea Foam in da tank & forgeddabouit.... Rolling Eyes Shocked Cool
 
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CowTownBiomed
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I used to drain the carbs too, but it now depends on the longevity of the storage period.
My 1100 has been sitting for a while now, but that was planned, and the carbs are drained.

On the 900 I just put in some stabil, and take it for its last ride, then just put it away for the winter, not having drain tubes on the carbs are the biggest reason for that (they werent there when I bought it)

Then I pull the plug from the top of the solonoid (becasue I'm too lazy to remove the battery) and put the battery minder on till the big crank is charged, then I remove the charger. (the AGM's store good in the cold)

In the spring I plug in the solonoid, pull the choke and fire it up...
 
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wharfie
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:04 am Reply with quote Back to top

Any feedback on using Seafom as a stabilizer? I'm tempted to try killing 2 birds with one stone. Just add Seafoam , drain the carbs, and run it through come spring.
 
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warpspeed
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:21 am Reply with quote Back to top

I never used to drain my carbs, but the fuel these days is much more volatile - up to 10% ethanol here in Mass. It does not "hold" as well as fuel from 10 years ago. Sta-bil, drain the carbs. I have not used Sea-Foam as a stabilizer. Stuff is great, tho, probably would work. Biggest key is to fill that fuel tank RIGHT UP TO THE TIPPY-TOP. Use the center stand or wheel stand if at all possible. The less air in the tank, the better. I fill up at the pump then top in the garage from the can.
 
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Blainethemono
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 2:15 am Reply with quote Back to top

Regarding Sea Foam as a stabilizer. I do believe it says right on the can that a half can in 10 gallons will stabilize fuel for up to 6 months.

From thier web site.

When Added to Fuel Tank
Cleans fuel injectors and carburetor jets
Cleans carbon as you drive
Lubricates upper cylinders
De-ices and removes moisture
Diesel full conditioner and anti gel
Stabilizes fuel
One pint treats 8-25 gallons of fuel (average 1 ounce per gallon).



Another school of thought

http://www.wayneswords.com/cgi-bin/wayne.pl?noframes;read=62926

Ive got 1 can in my Dusters gas tank. Been sitting for 6 years...... We shall see....
 
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Nitro
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:02 am Reply with quote Back to top

I would say just like the rest..drain em..Its no big deal that the fuel goes sour, a bit of #1 in the spring fixs that easy enough,stabilizer of course works best. and the only real reason to fill it is so the tank doesnt rust...... but its more the fact the gas usually evaporates in the bowls and can leave gick in the bowls just waiting to plug u up, and will eventually......I dont have the drain hoses on a couple of mine either, better for cleaning the cases..Smile

I have run the bikes till dry a few times as had wasps nest in the shed, worked great..killed em all!!

On the bikes I put away for long term, I mean years, I drain the tanks, dump in some 5w and swill it around., shake em up every few months or so...been doing it for 20 yrs and never had a tank rust yet..I burn all my gas riding them, none left for storage as broke by fall..Smile


then again, i have bought a lot of bikes that have laid on their sides for 10 yrs and I have found that sitting 1 yr or 10, if you clean the carbs the spring it wont matter anyway..just park it..Smile

see ya next spring!!!


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bobr
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Even if you stabilize the fuel....DRAIN THE BOWLS. As mentioned before Ethanol is wreaking havoc on needles and seats. I've got a bag of stuck needles on the counter to show customers. Ethanol had ruined them in as little as 2 weeks of a bike sitting. I've even seen it in 2-strokes with premixed fuel!

By the way, I haven't been in here for a while, shame on me, I like the new format. Wink
 
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Junwa
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Personally I find it easier to just top off tank ad sea foam or Sta-bill....
get tires off of the cement (swingarm stand, blankets or wood blocks)

Bring battery in put it on tender...

I start the bike regularly during the winter so it's not as much an issue
for me.

Just keep tank topped off and battery charged...

Then again this is my first winter with a F in my care...so I'll keep some of the
pointers in mind.

Thanks

J
 
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BlueThunder
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

When it's time to take the bike off the road, I:
- Drain the carbs
- Drain the tank
- Put a quart of 5W oil and swish around to coat the inside
- Use DriSlide and lube all cables.
- Raise both wheels off the floor
- Remove battery
- Put a coat of wax on bodyparts

I've found that coating the inside of the tank with oil keeps rust from forming. Every so often I will re-swish as I check on the bike (actually imaging riding). Been doing this for 20 years without any problems or rust forming.

I know others fill the tank and put stabil in the tank, but I still have found "gunk" separate and mess up the petcock.

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Blainethemono
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Just FYI, AGM batteries, aka Big Crank, only loose 1-3% of their charge per month, and are NOT effected by cold as standard batteries are... A battery tender really isnt needed...

Ive had bikes sit for 6 months or more, fire right up with an AGM battery still connected...

http://www.emecole.com/agm_batteries.pdf

AGM's have a very low self-discharge - from 1% to 3% per month is usual. This means that they can sit in storage for much longer periods without charging than standard batteries. An AGM battery can be almost fully recharged (95% or better) even after 30 days of being totally discharged.
 
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silversurfer1050
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:06 am Reply with quote Back to top

OK, What's with the put it up on wood blocks theory? What does that do or avoid happening?

I've heard of it, but nver done it. The guy I bought my Hurricane had it stored like that when I came to buy it in the spring.

Tx
Bill

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:09 am Reply with quote Back to top

maybe this could run as a qualified pole.

Only guys answer that store their bikes more than 2 months?

What do you mechanics think?

BTW - I drain the carbs.

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winnerc2s
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:14 am Reply with quote Back to top

silversurfer1050 wrote:
OK, What's with the put it up on wood blocks theory? What does that do or avoid happening?

I've heard of it, but nver done it. The guy I bought my Hurricane had it stored like that when I came to buy it in the spring.

Tx
Bill


Keeps it from contact with the dampness of the concrete. Also prevents flat spots on the tires.

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BlueThunder
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:42 am Reply with quote Back to top

silversurfer1050 wrote:
OK, What's with the put it up on wood blocks theory? What does that do or avoid happening?

I've heard of it, but nver done it. The guy I bought my Hurricane had it stored like that when I came to buy it in the spring.

Tx
Bill


It keeps a flat spot from permanently developing on the tires.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Myself, get her good and hot then drain off the oil and refill with new. Drain the tank and the carbs. Then a squirt of WD40 down each plug and crank her over with no spark. WD40 into both ends of the exhaust (took it off first) and inside the tank. Battery gets a full charge then onto the maintainer. I did all this before 13 years of storage and she came back to life no problem then (well I did need a new battery).

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:30 am Reply with quote Back to top

I know building code requires electrical installations to have a grounding conductor buried in the foundation of new structures as the concrete is a conductor. No really - it is for grounding.

Maybe there is an avoidance of bimetallic action by insulating with wood. I was just wondering if you guys had a reason of your own.

Thanks,
Bill

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

silversurfer1050 wrote:
I know building code requires electrical installations to have a grounding conductor buried in the foundation of new structures as the concrete is a conductor. No really - it is for grounding.

Maybe there is an avoidance of bimetallic action by insulating with wood. I was just wondering if you guys had a reason of your own.

Thanks,
Bill


Wood is soft, won't scratch and can be cut easily if need be.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

As my bike waits out winter stowed in my garage I often go up to it and give the brake levers a tap to help prevent he brake pistons from siezing up. Don't know if this works but it can't hurt and she likes the attention.

I have always left fuel in the bowls with fuel stabilizer over the winter (5 months) and she has always started up with no complaints in the spring.
 
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