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kiwihonda004
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:41 am Reply with quote Back to top

Well I got a shock of being offered a test ride on the new Niken
MTO9 powered and once you get use to the bulky front area and look ahead you don't notice any difference
very surefooted and great torque and engine braking .
$24000 NZ

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:37 am Reply with quote Back to top

Interesting, but what's the point? Confused

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Seems kinda like trying to ride a billy goat like a quarter horse. Image

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Twice the fork seals leaking?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Massive amount of design work there so there must be a point
 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Very stable on metal surfaces while turning and tends to run straight at low speeds plus supported by tire manufactures lol .
low seat height but very wide base

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:29 am Reply with quote Back to top

your cat will joyride it fine

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

deandeib wrote:
Interesting, but what's the point? Confused

For people who don't know how to balance a motorcycle.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm curious as to what supports the inner side of the axle, there must be something in there like a trailing arm of some sort but I can't see anything.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:14 am Reply with quote Back to top

It would get me in a Motocycle dealer to take a look.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:26 am Reply with quote Back to top

The axles are yoked between the front and rear forks, so any fork is only handling 1/4 of the weight. It would be a bitch to change a wheel if they were tied together. Probably bad enough as is. A reviewer says the contact patch size is much better though and it makes a huge difference. No doubt.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:32 am Reply with quote Back to top

I almost bought a Piaggio MP3 a few years ago as an urban commuter (ended up getting a Vespa instead). It had a similar front end setup. The advantages were that it had better grip for braking and cornering, while still riding like a regular bike (lean for turns).

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:35 am Reply with quote Back to top

Itís a stub axle so only a single nut to remove a wheel. Only one fork leg per side has any hydraulics, the other is just structural. Iíve heard nothing but good things from many people about how it handles and the supreme confidence it inspires. How that translates to sales is another question entirely.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:29 am Reply with quote Back to top

Whether one likes it or not I love the design factor in stuff like this and what they are trying to achieve (other than sales). It's cool to think outside the box and see if there is something to be gained even if conventional wisdom or general option isn't always on your side. That's why I always hate the comment of "well if it worked they would be doing it in Formula 1 or ProStock!" No, not necessarily....
 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:51 am Reply with quote Back to top

Might be a hit, might not. Many derided the Spyder at first, but it has become pretty main stream.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

It looks fun to me, and if I could afford more than one new bike I would consider it. It doesn't balance itself per say, and it will fall over like a two wheeled bike would. I think that front end grip is the main advantage. All the traction control in the world won't be able save your front tire from losing grip in certain situations, so adding another wheel makes sense when viewed from the modern perspective of adding "rider aids" to new bikes. The only other alternative would be to add power to the front wheel so that traction control could be added in that way. Kinda like the Christini dirt bikes, which can deal with wheel slip by a mechanical means, transfering power to the wheel with grip.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

pidjones wrote:
Might be a hit, might not. Many derided the Spyder at fist, but it has become pretty main stream.


Maybe so, but I wouldn't be caught dead on one. Like the joke about, What's the difference between a moped and a fat chick? Both are fun to ride but wouldn't want any of my friends to see me.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The idea of that bike was to design a bike that had more front end grip in turns.

It's probably fun to ride and in my mind is closer to the classic motorcycle ride compared to the Can Am or the Slingshot..

If it's fun to ride why not?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:34 am Reply with quote Back to top

I didn't add but it has quick shiftier added to the gear change don't know how effective it is
The front wheels have car like wheel nuts .
Conversation today with friend who when to track day and saw demo by expert comment was good but hard to do wheelies
and the developer of this was their to answer questions .

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:04 am Reply with quote Back to top

Boris loves it.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:30 am Reply with quote Back to top

I've got an XSR900 so I already love the motor. One of the classic motors of all time for the street I reckon.

I'd love to see a version of this that is more "naked", in other words get rid of all that stuff covering the front end, let it all hang out there. It would probably look pretty cool like that.

Must test ride soon. As long as none of my mates see me...

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