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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

What started off as getting someone else to make the exhaust has turned into my sourcing a local fabricator to do it. Thread kinda took a loop but will be making a yoshimura race can replica with access to the service points + mounting to stock rearsets + center stand clearance. 304 Stainless steel, cone engineering components.

The pipe will be modeled to look as close to this picture as possible, with the adjustments mentioned above.
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Process is underway!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

What Holds them to engine? The collars and half moons or the bolt hole flanges?

I would be into it and what would the appx lead time be?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Phil,

Bolt hole flanges, I have one on my GS1000

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:47 pm Reply with quote Back to top

toddk wrote:
Phil,

Bolt hole flanges, I have one on my GS1000

Toddk


With that small muffler is it crazy loud? (I realize loud is subjective here)

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Chris,

It appears as if rear sets and / or a fabrication method will be required for the muffler attachment point.

Is that correct or will the pipe be made to allow use of "standard" mounting points?

What deposit will be required? 50% or ??.

Or will the full amount have to be paid in advance before that person can be counted as Interested?

Thank you for your efforts in getting this to happen.

Ricardo
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:14 am Reply with quote Back to top

Rather timely discussion it seems. Hindle is moving forward with 4-2-1 systems for classics and our bikes are on the list. They're not quite ready for prime time, but they will be soon (4-6 months?). Thinwall stainless, spigot mount to head, spring fixation to spigot & assembly of the rest of the pipe. 8-9 lbs weight. Beautiful workmanship. Stay tuned. $700 Canadian.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:20 am Reply with quote Back to top

YUM YUM.

Hindle is a GREAT PIPE.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:44 am Reply with quote Back to top

Popcorn
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:41 am Reply with quote Back to top

F-crazy wrote:
toddk wrote:
Phil,

Bolt hole flanges, I have one on my GS1000

Toddk


With that small muffler is it crazy loud? (I realize loud is subjective here)


Yes

Toddk
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:44 am Reply with quote Back to top

toddk wrote:
F-crazy wrote:


With that small muffler is it crazy loud? (I realize loud is subjective here)


Yes

Toddk


Stop avoiding the question, be direct.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:25 am Reply with quote Back to top

I saved a few pics of their pipe back in 2012 when they used to sell them on ebay.

I don't know anything about them, can't answer any questions..

... Just FYI...
 
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CBX1260cc wrote:
YUM YUM.

Hindle is a GREAT PIPE.


... and you won't need to try and mug other people for theirs ... Very Happy

This would be good news if it happens, as I could use another one ...

Regards,

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Question, will the oil filter come off with the exhaust on? I have a
Yoshimira pipe that requires the exhaust off to get the filter off..
NOT FUN!
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

My questions are
1. The oil filter removal with the pipe on.
2. Mounting with 1100F Euro Rearsets. That is a must have or deals off.
3. Not an absolute but is the baffle removable?

If its a yes to all three then I am in on board with the purchase

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hondamax said "and you won't need to try and mug other people for theirs"---You can't blame me for asking Smile Smile .

The Hindle IS a BEAUTIFUL PIPE and fits so nicely as well.


All the best Max.


Kind regards

Ricardo
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:00 pm Reply with quote Back to top

So, I'll add my 2 cents Shocked,

Hindle makes excellent stuff. I know Lang casually and have done one trade show with him and his son, and been at a few races at Daytona with him. My friend owns Street and Competition and he is a Hindle distributor.

My basic opinion, 4 into 2 into 1 is the way to go for the best scavenging. quality, light weight, fit and finish on Hindle is very good. The systems sells as a header section and the can is purchased separate. There are at least 10 different cans so you can have any volume, flow or finish you want. It is very nice stuff.

I asked for an 1100 pipe years ago, if it comes to fruition, it will be the best option for us. 1100 euro rearsets mount the same as US stuff. Fit will be no problem.

I would buy one in a minute, but this is not going to be a $300 Vance & Hines unit. You get what you pay for. At least twice as nice as Vance & Hines. Will never rust and replacement parts should be readily available.

Plus, Lang is a fast guy and I like to support racers, he does also and supports lots of riders.

Toddk

I give his systems an "A+", Vance & Hines a "C"
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Doesn't Hindle make the pipes for BROCKS and they just rebadge them??
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

You are correct.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:06 pm Reply with quote Back to top

CBX1260cc wrote:
Hondamax said "and you won't need to try and mug other people for theirs"---You can't blame me for asking Smile Smile .

The Hindle IS a BEAUTIFUL PIPE and fits so nicely as well.


All the best Max.


Kind regards

Ricardo


Ricardo,

Hope you are well! Would be really pleased if Hindle start doing old bike systems again, their VF1000R one was reportedly excellent. I'd be in the market for a CB1100 and a VF1000R one if they do them ...

Regards,

Max

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

toddk wrote:
So, I'll add my 2 cents Shocked,

Hindle makes excellent stuff. I know Lang casually and have done one trade show with him and his son, and been at a few races at Daytona with him. My friend owns Street and Competition and he is a Hindle distributor.

My basic opinion, 4 into 2 into 1 is the way to go for the best scavenging. quality, light weight, fit and finish on Hindle is very good. The systems sells as a header section and the can is purchased separate. There are at least 10 different cans so you can have any volume, flow or finish you want. It is very nice stuff.

I asked for an 1100 pipe years ago, if it comes to fruition, it will be the best option for us. 1100 euro rearsets mount the same as US stuff. Fit will be no problem.

I would buy one in a minute, but this is not going to be a $300 Vance & Hines unit. You get what you pay for. At least twice as nice as Vance & Hines. Will never rust and replacement parts should be readily available.

Plus, Lang is a fast guy and I like to support racers, he does also and supports lots of riders.

Toddk

I give his systems an "A+", Vance & Hines a "C"


I've got an old Hindle on my 985 and am very pleased with it. I chose a carbon Stealth Can for mine, and it makes a nice noise without being too obvious ... Would love the same thing in stainless ...

Regards,

Max

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks all for your questions! I've condensed all the questions into a list and I will msg motogpwerks on monday. Didn't want to bother him too much on sunday.

Will find out answers for everyone as soon as I can. I will also take a look at the hindle pipe, but my heart is set on a yoshimura exhaust.

Chris

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Not to Re-direct the thread--But


Max,

Would you be kind enough to post a picture of your Hindle so members could get an idea of how nice that system is and the advantages it brings (light weight for example).??


ToddK confirmed that Hindle makes the pipes for BrocksPerformance. Wouldn't it be NICE to have a Ti system made. See link to the system for a Suzuki:

https://brocksperformance.com/CT-Single-Full-System-+I393732+C134.aspx

The price however is not for the Feint of Heart or Thin of Wallet Shocked

I anxiously await additional news. Very Happy
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

CBX1260cc wrote:
Not to Re-direct the thread--But


Max,

Would you be kind enough to post a picture of your Hindle so members could get an idea of how nice that system is and the advantages it brings (light weight for example).??


ToddK confirmed that Hindle makes the pipes for BrocksPerformance. Wouldn't it be NICE to have a Ti system made. See link to the system for a Suzuki:

https://brocksperformance.com/CT-Single-Full-System-+I393732+C134.aspx

The price however is not for the Feint of Heart or Thin of Wallet Shocked

I anxiously await additional news. Very Happy


Ricardo,

When I got it I think it was Nickel plated, and then in 1999/2000 I had it chromed. The chrome is suffering a little bit in the inside of the collector area. Its mounted with 4 bolt on stubs that the pipes are held to by springs, and the mid pipe and muffler are also held on by springs. The can is the carbon Stealth can, the mid-pipe is slightly more upswept than standard:

Image

Image

It is currently off the bike if you want any other pictures.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:19 pm Reply with quote Back to top

hogwild113 wrote:
I saved a few pics of their pipe back in 2012 when they used to sell them on ebay.

I don't know anything about them, can't answer any questions..

... Just FYI...


I have one of the 750F pipes hogwild has posted. Fabrication and finish appear excellent. Can't comment on the fit, it's still in the shop gathering dust. It's on the list for this Winter after I get the 900 cams installed.

I can probably be talked into another one for the 1100F or possibly a Hindle.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:48 am Reply with quote Back to top

The Hindle pictured is of course a 30 year old design, 4 into 2 into 1 would be considerably different. I like the MotoGP werks pipe and considered it when they were on ebay, but just decided against it. I don't remember why.

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Okay, a little further info seems needed. The 4-2-1 that I saw was for a SOHC 750 and was a pre-production pipe. It was admittedly tuned for performance but did give 2 additional HP on that particular bike. It was extremely light compared to a V&H canister system. I discussed the need for maintaining centerstand fitment and they will work toward that. Also, oil filter removal with pipe on is also on the list, but because the pipe can be removed without disturbing the spigots it can be plucked in about two minutes. Regarding the canisters, they have four designs for the "classic" series in 12" & 16" lengths, all stainless and variations on a megaphone. So, they are serious and we should have something by spring. Stay tuned, more to come. Perhaps I should start a new thread once I have something more of substance.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:43 am Reply with quote Back to top

Wulph wrote:
Okay, a little further info seems needed. The 4-2-1 that I saw was for a SOHC 750 and was a pre-production pipe. It was admittedly tuned for performance but did give 2 additional HP on that particular bike. It was extremely light compared to a V&H canister system. I discussed the need for maintaining centerstand fitment and they will work toward that. Also, oil filter removal with pipe on is also on the list, but because the pipe can be removed without disturbing the spigots it can be plucked in about two minutes. Regarding the canisters, they have four designs for the "classic" series in 12" & 16" lengths, all stainless and variations on a megaphone. So, they are serious and we should have something by spring. Stay tuned, more to come. Perhaps I should start a new thread once I have something more of substance.

A new thread would be great and let them know this is very exciting news....I tend to feel at times like we are the red headed step child because of our much smaller market base....but there are still a lot of F bikes out there and the vintage market is doing very well right now. The "kids" or some of them anyway are taking an interest, like Chris who started this thread. So hats off to Hindle for recognizing us....

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:01 am Reply with quote Back to top

Hey Wayne, please remain patient. I hope to be in a position to advance this in the next few weeks. But, the SOHC pipe was NICE!
 
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I am very interested in the motogp Werks exhaust for an 1100F.
 
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Count me in for one.

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