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kiwihonda004
Hawk
Joined: Jul 14, 2012
Posts: 387
Location: New Zealand
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Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:41 am |
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Well I got a shock of being offered a test ride on the new Niken
MTO9 powered and once you get use to the bulky front area and look ahead you don't notice any difference
very surefooted and great torque and engine braking .
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deandeib
Silver CB750F
Joined: Jan 29, 2013
Posts: 612
Location: Southeast PA
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Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:37 am |
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Interesting, but what's the point? |
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genesound
Red CB1100F
Joined: Feb 20, 2006
Posts: 11926
Location: Studio City, California
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Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:02 pm |
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BullittDave
Twinstar
Joined: Aug 31, 2016
Posts: 256
Location: Mission, TX.
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Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:52 pm |
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Twice the fork seals leaking? |
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norm
Silver CB900F
Joined: Jan 13, 2010
Posts: 1401
Location: Melbourne Aus
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Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:27 pm |
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Massive amount of design work there so there must be a point |
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kiwihonda004
Hawk
Joined: Jul 14, 2012
Posts: 387
Location: New Zealand
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Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:59 pm |
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Very stable on metal surfaces while turning and tends to run straight at low speeds plus supported by tire manufactures lol .
low seat height but very wide base |
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genesound
Red CB1100F
Joined: Feb 20, 2006
Posts: 11926
Location: Studio City, California
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BlueThunder
Red CB1100F
Joined: Jun 12, 2006
Posts: 9236
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:29 pm |
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deandeib wrote: |
Interesting, but what's the point? |
For people who don't know how to balance a motorcycle. |
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norm
Silver CB900F
Joined: Jan 13, 2010
Posts: 1401
Location: Melbourne Aus
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Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:59 pm |
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I'm curious as to what supports the inner side of the axle, there must be something in there like a trailing arm of some sort but I can't see anything. |
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zealous
Hawk
Joined: Jan 15, 2009
Posts: 408
Location: Plymouth
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Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:14 am |
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It would get me in a Motocycle dealer to take a look. |
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genesound
Red CB1100F
Joined: Feb 20, 2006
Posts: 11926
Location: Studio City, California
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Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:26 am |
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The axles are yoked between the front and rear forks, so any fork is only handling 1/4 of the weight. It would be a bitch to change a wheel if they were tied together. Probably bad enough as is. A reviewer says the contact patch size is much better though and it makes a huge difference. No doubt. |
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Bone
Black CB750F
Joined: Oct 20, 2014
Posts: 879
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia
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Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:32 am |
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I almost bought a Piaggio MP3 a few years ago as an urban commuter (ended up getting a Vespa instead). It had a similar front end setup. The advantages were that it had better grip for braking and cornering, while still riding like a regular bike (lean for turns). |
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DonR
CB1100F
Joined: Feb 17, 2009
Posts: 2110
Location: Oz
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Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:35 am |
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It’s a stub axle so only a single nut to remove a wheel. Only one fork leg per side has any hydraulics, the other is just structural. I’ve heard nothing but good things from many people about how it handles and the supreme confidence it inspires. How that translates to sales is another question entirely. |
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nathanhouse
Silver CB900F
Joined: Oct 05, 2008
Posts: 1449
Location: Dover, NH
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Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:29 am |
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Whether one likes it or not I love the design factor in stuff like this and what they are trying to achieve (other than sales). It's cool to think outside the box and see if there is something to be gained even if conventional wisdom or general option isn't always on your side. That's why I always hate the comment of "well if it worked they would be doing it in Formula 1 or ProStock!" No, not necessarily.... |
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pidjones
Twinstar
Joined: Dec 14, 2018
Posts: 123
Location: East Tennessee
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Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:51 am |
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Might be a hit, might not. Many derided the Spyder at first, but it has become pretty main stream. |
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n8n8n8
Twinstar
Joined: Dec 07, 2012
Posts: 254
Location: Akron, oh
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Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:30 pm |
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It looks fun to me, and if I could afford more than one new bike I would consider it. It doesn't balance itself per say, and it will fall over like a two wheeled bike would. I think that front end grip is the main advantage. All the traction control in the world won't be able save your front tire from losing grip in certain situations, so adding another wheel makes sense when viewed from the modern perspective of adding "rider aids" to new bikes. The only other alternative would be to add power to the front wheel so that traction control could be added in that way. Kinda like the Christini dirt bikes, which can deal with wheel slip by a mechanical means, transfering power to the wheel with grip. |
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deandeib
Silver CB750F
Joined: Jan 29, 2013
Posts: 612
Location: Southeast PA
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Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:01 pm |
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pidjones wrote: |
Might be a hit, might not. Many derided the Spyder at fist, but it has become pretty main stream. |
Maybe so, but I wouldn't be caught dead on one. Like the joke about, What's the difference between a moped and a fat chick? Both are fun to ride but wouldn't want any of my friends to see me. |
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f4fast
Friend of the Board
Joined: Jul 09, 2005
Posts: 24693
Location: Long Island,N.Y.
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Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:15 pm |
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The idea of that bike was to design a bike that had more front end grip in turns.
It's probably fun to ride and in my mind is closer to the classic motorcycle ride compared to the Can Am or the Slingshot..
If it's fun to ride why not? |
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kiwihonda004
Hawk
Joined: Jul 14, 2012
Posts: 387
Location: New Zealand
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Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:34 am |
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I didn't add but it has quick shiftier added to the gear change don't know how effective it is
The front wheels have car like wheel nuts .
Conversation today with friend who when to track day and saw demo by expert comment was good but hard to do wheelies
and the developer of this was their to answer questions . |
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DonR
CB1100F
Joined: Feb 17, 2009
Posts: 2110
Location: Oz
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Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:04 am |
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robbo
Silver CB750F
Joined: Apr 07, 2008
Posts: 535
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:30 am |
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I've got an XSR900 so I already love the motor. One of the classic motors of all time for the street I reckon.
I'd love to see a version of this that is more "naked", in other words get rid of all that stuff covering the front end, let it all hang out there. It would probably look pretty cool like that.
Must test ride soon. As long as none of my mates see me... |
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