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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

After many years of procrastinating, I have decided it’s about time to build a Honda CB750F. Back in the 80’s I once owned, built and raced one of these motorcycles. It may not have turned out exactly the way I wanted it. This time I figured start all over again with a Fresh Build for the street with some of the AHM details.

This is where I came up short back in the 80's. I had the basics of the frame bracing done, GL1000 forks reworked to a point. As for the rear suspension, it never really came together as good as it should have.

My first priority this time around is to build the FRAME/CHASSIS: I am searching to purchase a COMPLETE 1981-82 CB750F. At this point, there seems to be a limited supply available.

The other option is to find a 1981-82 CB750F FRAME with the ability to register for the STREET.

The other option is to find a 1983 CB750SC Nighthawk FRAME


My next priority is the CHASSIS/SUSPENSION: Since a Honda "Works" suspension might not be an option due to limited knowledge of availability. I have seen a few create options for the front forks (ex; GL1500), Nissin Brake Calipers (ex; CBR900RR/CBR1000RR).

My final priority is the MOTOR: I think I have a handle on this part. I'm sure a few additional details once he completes a few projects he is currently working on.

Shopping List:
CB1000C Cases with Transmission
CB1000C or CB1100F Head (complete with cams)
CB1000C or CB1100F Block/Cylinders
CB1000C or CB1100F Rods
CB900F or CB1000C Crank
1981-82 Stock Seat


If any of you on this forum gets around to reading my post and has a few suggestions/feedback or items I may need for my Build. Please free to contact me.


Thanks for your assistance and support.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

thats a great intro - and your already on the right track with the right person

if its any help, I recently aquired the Tony Foale program for chassis / suspension - if you take a look at his web sight to see what it does, and if you want the no's crunched then no problem
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Welcome (back) to the obsession!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:43 pm Reply with quote Back to top

nlovie wrote:
thats a great intro - and your already on the right track with the right person

if its any help, I recently aquired the Tony Foale program for chassis / suspension - if you take a look at his web sight to see what it does, and if you want the no's crunched then no problem




Thanks for the response and support. I am always open to the idea doing a little refresher chassis and suspension. THANKS AGAIN

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

cliffiec wrote:
Welcome (back) to the obsession!


Thanks for the response and support.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm working on getting you at least a frame and maybe a complete bike? We just need to steer clear of the 900 and 1100 frames as they create more work for me to get the motor mounts the way they should have been.

Peace, Jim
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

JJam wrote:
I'm working on getting you at least a frame and maybe a complete bike? We just need to steer clear of the 900 and 1100 frames as they create more work for me to get the motor mounts the way they should have been.

Peace, Jim


Got it Very Happy Say no to 900 and 1100 frames Shocked . Chat with you soon.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Are 750C frames the same as 750F frames? There's a guy an hour from me that is selling a frame with lots of parts (no engine or forks/front wheels) but it's a 750C.

Also would need to be shipped so maybe not a good option?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:40 am Reply with quote Back to top

djf18374 wrote:
Are 750C frames the same as 750F frames? There's a guy an hour from me that is selling a frame with lots of parts (no engine or forks/front wheels) but it's a 750C.

Also would need to be shipped so maybe not a good option?


I was told that there were three Frames/Chassis I should be looking for:

1981-82 CB750F

1981-82 CB750K

1983 CB750SC

I haven't heard if the CB750C was an option or not.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:06 pm Reply with quote Back to top

TCRacing wrote:
djf18374 wrote:
Are 750C frames the same as 750F frames? There's a guy an hour from me that is selling a frame with lots of parts (no engine or forks/front wheels) but it's a 750C.

Also would need to be shipped so maybe not a good option?


I was told that there were three Frames/Chassis I should be looking for:

1981-82 CB750F

1981-82 CB750K

1983 CB750SC

I haven't heard if the CB750C was an option or not.


To clarify for others so they fully understand. We are going to be cutting off the rear sub-frame to install the custom made AHM style sub-frame and the steering neck will get cut and tucked. Therefore any 750 frame will work for what we are doing.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-HONDA-CB-750-F-SUPER-SPORT-FRAME-/271560516153?hash=item3f3a44a239:g:aXAAAOSwq7JT1YCk&vxp=mtr
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The bike locally is a 1982 CB750C mostly complete with title. Missing engine, pipe, and forks/wheel in front. He wants $250 or best offer.
Will also need to be shipped, which i have no idea on cost.
Let me know if that sounds interesting to you TCRacing and I'll see if I can make it happen. Or i can give you his contact information to deal direct with him?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:02 am Reply with quote Back to top

djf18374 wrote:
The bike locally is a 1982 CB750C mostly complete with title. Missing engine, pipe, and forks/wheel in front. He wants $250 or best offer.
Will also need to be shipped, which i have no idea on cost.
Let me know if that sounds interesting to you TCRacing and I'll see if I can make it happen. Or i can give you his contact information to deal direct with him?


I have been encouraged to find a 1981-82 frame since these frames offer the larger pivot bolt holes and pivot bolt. I will keep this open as an option since we have not decided on a donor bike yet.

Chat with you soon.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

First Item.... Check!

"There might be a little dust on the bottle / It's one of those things that gets sweeter with time…"

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:40 am Reply with quote Back to top

Been following and can't wait to see where it goes, especially now that you've posted that pipe.

Here's an '82 that popped up on CL

https://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/6024958577.html

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:50 am Reply with quote Back to top

Second item.... Check!

One of my craigslist finds.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Your 82- 750F looks to be a very nice starting point!

Does it run as good as it looks? Give it good shake down run on Hwy-25, San Juan Bautista to King City!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:18 am Reply with quote Back to top

melchiro wrote:
Your 82- 750F looks to be a very nice starting point!

Does it run as good as it looks? Give it good shake down run on Hwy-25, San Juan Bautista to King City!


This is going to be a total rebuild before I even consider taking this one for a ride down Highway-25.

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1983 CB1100F X SOLD

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:55 am Reply with quote Back to top

Bump

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:00 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I have been working on collecting information on a few of the OEM items that have been used for modifications to the Chassis/Suspensions. I listed multiple options under each category since I will most likely have several builds happening. I figured I would put this information out there in an effort to get some feedback as to what works, what doesn't and other possible options I may have overlooked.


Triple clamps:
Notes: Searching for similar options

• AHM Style Aluminum Billet Triple Clamps
• Similar Style Aluminum Billet Triple Clamp


Front Fork:[Check Axel Bolt Dia.]
Notes: OEM Stock Conventional 41mm - 43mm that is 774.7mm [30.5"] in length or greater

• Yamaha FZ1 [2001-05] – 795mm [31.29”] – [43mm dia.] – [22mm dia. axel]

Front Wheel Set:
Notes: OEM Wheel Set [17” X 3.5”] – include an front offset sprocket

• Suzuki GSX-R600 / R750 – OEM Three Spoke Wheel Set [2006-07] – [25mm dia. axle]

Front Calipers:
Notes: 2002 Yamaha YZF600R - 100mm Spacing, 298mm [11.8”] front disks

• Yamaha YZF-600 R6 [1997 – 2007] – [Year 2002] OEM Mono Block Four Piston Calipers

Swing Arm:[Check Pivot Bolt Dia.]
Notes: Searching for similar OEM Stock Swing Arms

• Suzuki GSX-R600 [1997-2000] - [Year 2000] – [28mm dia. axle]

Rear Wheel Set:
Note: OEM Wheel Set [17” X 5.5”] – include an front offset sprocket – Final Driver Chain

• Suzuki GSX-R600 / R750 – OEM Three Spoke Wheel Set [2006-07]

Rear Calipers:
Notes: OEM Two Piston Caliper, 220mm [8.7”] disks

• Yamaha FZ1 – OEM [2001-05]



Thanks for your time and feedback

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Rear Swingarms -

CB400SF - non-US, but there are some good threads on here. I think PontiacsToGo used one?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I believe CB1100F aka the CB900F on the Home Page went with the CB400SF swing arm as well.

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Regarding the blackbird swingarms (CBRXX) try and find the earlier model (pre 01 if I remember correctly). The later models have to be machined to fit. Earlier models just need to have spacers made.

WRONG! Dammit I always get that backwards. It's the later model that doesn't need machining but needs spacers. You would think I could rember this cause I put one on my 1100. Someone chime in (Shawn / Darren). Fucking brain.....

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1100russ wrote:
Regarding the blackbird swingarms (CBRXX) try and find the earlier model (pre 01 if I remember correctly). The later models have to be machined to fit. Earlier models just need to have spacers made.

WRONG! Dammit I always get that backwards. It's the later model that doesn't need machining but needs spacers. You would think I could rember this cause I put one on my 1100. Someone chime in (Shawn / Darren). Fucking brain.....



Okay, so what your saying is the Honda CBR1100XX “Blackbird” [2001-2003] does not require machining, just need spacers in an effort to have this swing arm fit. Cool Thanks

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1983 CB1100F X SOLD

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TCRacing wrote:
1100russ wrote:
Regarding the blackbird swingarms (CBRXX) try and find the earlier model (pre 01 if I remember correctly). The later models have to be machined to fit. Earlier models just need to have spacers made.

WRONG! Dammit I always get that backwards. It's the later model that doesn't need machining but needs spacers. You would think I could rember this cause I put one on my 1100. Someone chime in (Shawn / Darren). Fucking brain.....



Okay, so what your say is the Honda CBR1100XX “Blackbird” [2001-2003] does not require machining, just need spacers in an effort to have this swing arm fit. Cool Thanks


It's too long Todd and needs machining at the pivot. Just mount the GSXR600 arm and put that part of the bike to rest. I don't know a single person that would dock the bike because it has a non Honda swingarm on it. The purist's won't care because it's not stock anyway.

Just my two cents which doesn't count for much.

Peace, Jim
 
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1100russ wrote:
Regarding the blackbird swingarms (CBRXX) try and find the earlier model (pre 01 if I remember correctly). The later models have to be machined to fit. Earlier models just need to have spacers made.

WRONG! Dammit I always get that backwards. It's the later model that doesn't need machining but needs spacers. You would think I could rember this cause I put one on my 1100. Someone chime in (Shawn / Darren). Fucking brain.....

.


I'll put it this way, There are 2 different swingarms on the blackbird. They are basically the same but one is wider at the pivot. It needs machined. The other is much narrower. You can machine spacers that fit into the bearings (which also fills in for the smaller diameter pivot bolt I believe) and it will fit perfectly. But as Jim says it lengthens your wheel base a little. Not much though. On a street bike you wouldn't be able to tell. I took a bunch of pics when I did mine so if you need to see something let me know.

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JJam wrote:
TCRacing wrote:
1100russ wrote:
Regarding the blackbird swingarms (CBRXX) try and find the earlier model (pre 01 if I remember correctly). The later models have to be machined to fit. Earlier models just need to have spacers made.

WRONG! Dammit, I always get that backwards. It's the later model that doesn't need machining but needs spacers. You would think I could remember this cause I put one on my 1100. Someone chime in (Shawn / Darren). Fucking brain.....



Okay, so what your say is the Honda CBR1100XX “Blackbird” [2001-2003] does not require machining, just need spacers in an effort to have this swing arm fit. Cool Thanks


It's too long Todd and needs machining at the pivot. Just mount the GSXR600 arm and put that part of the bike to rest. I don't know a single person that would dock the bike because it has a non-Honda swingarm on it. The purists won't care because it's not stock anyway.

Just my two cents which doesn't count for much.

Peace, Jim


Personally I was leaning more towards the AHM style arm that you have been developing in your shop. I sure we will get the chance to utilize the GSXR600 arm which is a deal at $642.00 considering I have more than one of these projects that are in the works.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:19 pm Reply with quote Back to top

WOW! I've got a 80 CB750F that I want to fix up. This is just what I need to see.
 
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Slowly gathering the parts for the 1123 cc motor

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10 Piece Frame Brace Kit arrived. Now it's time to prep the frame and get it ready for a few additional details prior to the frame shop.

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